Yes, I have a crush on a contestant from The Biggest Loser, and this seemed like a good time to admit it. After Steve Holcomb‘s victory on The Ten, I became frustrated by Manhunt Daily readers’ inability to accept that he won fair and square. Therefore, it’s been a very hairy, pro-bear week for me…
Let me explain why I’m obsessed with Frado. When he’s working out in the gym with Bob Harper and Jillian Michaels, he makes all sorts of sexy grunting noises. It’s the type of sound I love to hear in the bedroom, especially when it’s coming from a sweaty man who’s built bigger than me.
But it’s not just that! Frado’s got an outstanding personality, and he really seems to care about his fellow contestants. Not to mention, his voice is sexy as hell. And if we’re being entirely honest? I want to sit on his goatee until I cum all over his chest.
For some people, the whole “married and straight” thing would be enough of a turn-off, but the reason I feel guilty about liking Frado is because he’s actually unhealthy. He needs to lose weight in this competition, or he might be living a significantly shorter life. He’ll be the first person to tell you that!
In any case, I thought I’d open up a discussion. Have you ever been attracted to someone, even though you know they’re unhealthy or engaging in a bad habit? Whether it’s overeating to “gain” or smoking, I’d love to hear what you have to say on this matter. And, yes, I realize those two examples aren’t related, but I’d like to steer this conversation beyond weight.
– Dewitt
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If he’s got man-boobs he’s not a bear, he’s a chub. Bears have a large frame, average to muscular physique, and a belly. Half the guys on MH who call themselves bears are chubs. Nothing wrong with liking chubby guys–lots of men do (just as lots of straight guys like ‘rubenesque’ women). But please don’t confuse them with bears. Bears get attacked enough by the gay community as it is (as we saw with furor over Steve Holcomb), without being confused with guys who are seriously overweight.
@Bohemond: Its a matter of semantics… I’ve always heard chubs are large men who DON’T have body hair, while bears are larger men (muscular or chubby) who are furry.
i thought we call bears to those who have body hair only?
Playing the semantics game? LOL
Fat is still Fat ! ;-)~
Dewitt, I love you for recognizing that true beauty is within, not just a pretty exterior…especially while there’s all this media exposure of bullying of LGBTQ youth.
Yes, I was bullied as a teen. But it pains me to admit some of the harshest, mean-spirited bullying I’ve ever been subjected to has been from my own community. When I came out of the closet I was looking for acceptance. Instead, what I often received was sneers and rude rejections for not having the perfect body, wearing the right clothes, knowing the right people, etc.
If we REALLY want bullying and bias against LGBTQ people to stop, let’s start by treating each other with respect ourselves! Remember, it wasn’t the buff gym bunnies that started the Stonewall Riots but the oppressed drag queens!
Ah yes. Obesity is so hot. I just wanna motor boat his titties and massive belly!
Ugh..yea I’ll pass. I’m good on large obese men. PASS
Heavy men don’t really turn my crank, but I’ve often found they’re the nicest and most accepting in the gay community, likely because those who are 7s looking for 11s won’t give them the time of day, even as a friend. That being said, I’ve liked/dated guys who smoked, or drank heavily, because besides those two unhealthy behaviors, they were really nice, sweet guys.
Holy Shit. There’s good big and bad big. This is a great example of bad big. Excuse me while I go puke now.
This is, without a doubt, the most stupid post every put up by Manhunt. Who cares how “sweet” he is. Can you see “sweet” in a photo?
Damn…he’s a fuckin’ mess. Lose a ton and then put him back up. This is gagging. What’s next? A 98 year old man in a nursing home as our pin up boy of the week.
“Dave says:
October 22, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Dewitt, I love you for recognizing that true beauty is within, not just a pretty exterior…especially while there’s all this media exposure of bullying of LGBTQ youth.
Yes, I was bullied as a teen. But it pains me to admit some of the harshest, mean-spirited bullying I’ve ever been subjected to has been from my own community. When I came out of the closet I was looking for acceptance. Instead, what I often received was sneers and rude rejections for not having the perfect body, wearing the right clothes, knowing the right people, etc.
If we REALLY want bullying and bias against LGBTQ people to stop, let’s start by treating each other with respect ourselves! Remember, it wasn’t the buff gym bunnies that started the Stonewall Riots but the oppressed drag queens!”
Well said!
There is more to a man than a buff body, a big dick and chiselled looks; it shouldn’t matter what he looks like, it’s what’s beneath that counts.
I love large men but this… Eww…
@Bohemond
Your description of “bear” and “chub” sounds like it hinges on the difference between visceral and subcutaneous fat. Men who are overweight and have “man-boobs”, as you call them, usually have a high amount of subcutaneous fat. This is fat just under the skin. It creates the “love handle” effect seen in Frado’s picture. Men who are overweight but have a large, taut stomach, the type that is not flabby, have a much higher percentage of visceral fat. This is fat located inside the peritoneal cavity, packed in between the internal organs and torso. It is visceral fat that creates the “pot belly” or “bear belly” effect you seem to associate with “bears.” Recent medical studies have shown it is visceral fat, rather than subcutaneous fat, most closely linked to metabolic and cardiovascular disease. Thus, in many instances, “bears” may have more health problems than “chubs.” Despite your protestations to the contrary, they are similar health conditions.
Reply to Woody comment “Fat is fat!”
Neither does “clean-cut atheletic” garantee a second look.
This dude might be surprisingly hot when he loses 125 pounds or so, but right now, in the “Hot or Not” contest, I’d have to vote an overwhelming “Not.”
I have to agree with the others. Frado is not attractive to me. Some of the other contestants ( Jesse and Mark) have potential once they lose more weight, but not Frado. I do think it is juvenile, though, to refer to other people as “gross” as some have called him.
Frado definitely has something – even tho his breasts are a little bit disturbing. He reminds me of a gorgeously overweight guy in the office where i work. I’m tied to my desk (not literally) because i have to be there to take calls, but this guy walks past about twenty times a day, all bulging shirt and striding, round ass cheeks. I cant keep my eyes off him… God only knows what i would do if he bundled me into the stationery cupboard and perhaps he is simply to be admired from afar, but lets hear it for guys like him, who take up whatever space they can find and then fill it however they please.
I would also agree that it is juvenile to call someone gross for ANY reason. While I may not be attracted to Frado or someone like him, I would not ever call him gross.
Now, on topic.. I’ve dated two guys that smoked. Neither relationship lasted long. I care for my health too much.
Have to ask this ToddM….
you negative?
Negative? What are you referring to, Jim?
I’ll go ahead and answer your question, even tho you don’t have the guts to really ask it. I’m healthy, happy, and keep a positive attitude about everything in life. Answer your question, Jim?
Wow @SimplyJim, that was low and completely uncalled for. I applaud you ToddM for always choosing to take the higher route as opposed to some posters on this blog. 🙂
Erik, I’m not suggesting that bears don’t necessarily have health problems. Most guys who are more than a few pounds overweight have some health issues.
And yes, hairiness is often a characteristic of bears. But being overweight and hairy doesn’t make you a bear.
Regardless of the vote last week being ‘rigged’ or not, this really doesn’t help your case Dewitt.
You’re frustrated by our knowledge of statistics, probability, and the sociology on MH? Sorry to hear that.
As far as the actual guy: not something I’m into but according to you there are plenty who are. So long as someone is satisfied, all is good.
He is kind of sexy. I see it
Perhaps the reason that we can’t accept that Steve won is because the majority of us really prefer to SEE the type guys who usually win. There’s nothing wrong with Steve but he doesn’t really have mass appeal for us muscle hungry fags on ManHunt. But this tell us everything…YOU STUFFED THE BALLOT BOX! Ah ha! Clearly we’re going to have to set up some unbiased 3rd party to tabulate the votes and certrify the results for The Ten. This thing is just too important to just leave to chance any longer. I mean we are selecting the most beautiful man ON THE PLANET with every vote…right?!?! Please get right on that Dewitt.
i think frado will be doing okay for himself if/when gets down to 225, 210 lbs.
´not sure if he will need any excess skin surgery at that time..
..but, he’ll figure something out, i’m sure.
i actually think frado has a handsome face — ´nice bone structure, and all that.
i always thought a “bear” person was to resemble an actual bear animal,,,,chubby or fat with lots of fur/hair; am i wrong about this?
CHUB to me, means being overweight alot, or fat if you wanna use that term
BEAR to me, means being slightly overweight more hairy than anything else,,,someone with fur on their body and beer-belly effect oh and also has that classic Bearish Look of Goatee beard and Moustache combo
Simply Jim I do not what made U ask that question but since U did I think its only fair 2 ask R U ? BTW Simply Jim I am NEGITIVE N case U had the urge 2 know ( like ToddM said ) but don’t have the BALLS 2 ask .. ToddM my friend once more U amaze me with your straight & 2 point candor and yet so eloquently said . I hope U will always be Healthy & Happy and may U never lose that positive out look nor the ability 2 so eloquently tell world about it !!!
Thank you, Olly and BlackJackHammer. I really appreciate your kindness. You two are true gentlemen.
And I too wish ToddM “live long and prosper.”
But his comment on Frado was much more like something the mother of Raymond on Everybody Loves Raymond would say. You know….. Sounded nice but it really wasn’t. Might as well have called Frado gross.
The statement “Neither relationship lasted long. I care for my health too much.”
He just come off sounding like someone who would go from “Neg/ub2” to “HIV is hard to get!”
on MH, my status was blank for the longest time, with just the date and results of my last test written into profile. The hassle became too much and just recently changed it to Negative. When asked, I will never tell someone I’m negative; just the date of my last test and result. I would never tell someone that i’m negative; just that i have not tested positive. It amazes me how that is not an acceptable answer to so many. No wonder HIV is on the rise.
PLay Pollyanna all you want guys. Not my problem.
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Feel free to call me Carrie!
SimplyJim, you did not read my post right. I was commenting about the ones smoking. Since I am allergic to cigarette smoke, that is why I did not stay in the relationships long. I DO care about my health.
Before you go reading into posts, you might want to find out why one has posted what he has.
i’m well aware you were not in a relationship with Frado. you made that quite clear.
so you lured two men into short relationship knowing full well you were allergic to them; would leave them hanging.
sounds slutty; and that’s not healthy.
Don’t get me wrong. I happen to be slutty also. That’s why I won’t answer, “Negataive.”
As I have never tested positive, but prefer to bb, mate’s status unimportant, believe we have steered this away from weight.
Lured them? Yeah. That’s me. You are so out of line. What’s that term I’m looking for?… Catty! Yeah. That’s it.
I took meds to try and make it work. But, I don’t have to explain myself to you.
“We” have not steered it away. You have done that all on your own.
I’ll add you to the list of ones I ignore.
One more thing ToddM, at 48, am I old enough to be your dad?
Why your infatuation with me, Jim? What you have posted on this thread has been beyond below the belt. You are a jerk. I did nothing to you to deserve your treatment. You hide behind a screenname to attack me. I see nothing great in that.
If you want to live a miserable life, go for it. I have my own life to live. Happy, honest, and with very good friends. I will not allow a person (who is not old enough to be my father if you must know) who I don’t know to make me miserable. Life is what you make of it. I choose to make it full of joy and happiness, no matter what is thrown at me. I only wish more would live that way.
it’s simplyjim search it!
I don’t need to waste my time. What you have done on here is despicable. I don’t come on here and personally attack people. I post only positive things about the models I like, ask questions when I don’t understand, and keep it to that. I never asked for what you did to me on here.
Boys like you make me sick. Men don’t act that way. It would serve you well to grow up. I don’t care what age you are. Maturity is a total different thing, and you’ve showed your level on here.
Now, I will go back to my happy life that God gave me. I’m thankful I don’t rely on opinions of guys like you to base whether I am happy or not. My parents taught me better.
ToddM
I disagree with your statement, “that you post only positive things.”
And I’m not talking about your last entry; I’m talking about your first one.
You didn’t simply scold someone for calling Frado gross. You just said he should not have said that to Frado. All you did was add insult on top of insult while trying to make yourself look good. Remember…”or someone like him”….remember?
And you did it again with the smoking issue.
Your profile on MH didn’t help any either.
All I said was , “you neg?”; only trying to bring you back down to Earth. Already knew you weren’t. But you didn’t know that as a fact …. until now.
And that’s a very common question.
Wow – one has to stretch to call ToddM’s first post negative.
I find it admirable to even take meds to attempt to be with someone with a habit you are allergic to … I too am allergic to cig smoke and always ask that up front if the guy’s a smoker … for me it’s a complete deal breaker yet I can’t tell you how many times I’ve met some guy who claimed to not be a smoker to be a complete ash tray. Last time was no smell, must smoke outside the house and when we kissed he had a real spearmint gum, wasn’t till we were in the shower together and no gum that I found out his mouth was an ashtray. In this case it didn’t make my allergies act up but was gross – couldn’t get that taste out of my mouth for hours.
And how is asking “you neg” bring someone back down to earth unless you are asking a baiting question and intended to inflict emotional distress? Every one of your posts in this thread show what a shallow and superficial person you are. I’m sure that’s a common statement you hear frequently.
simplyJim, please show where I’ve posted negative about anyone recently. Please. I await.
Bringing up my status is about as low as anyone can get. You want a negative post? Here’s one for you: You are a vicious, scum eating, pirahna. You give NO concern to how another person may feel. You have attacked me ruthlessly. My first post was anything but negative. Neither was my post about cigarette smokers. I gave them a chance, even tho I am allergic to cigarette smoke.
You are low. You have to attack others to make yourself feel better about yourself. At least I don’t have to do that, and don’t. My guess is that if you have had a quarter of what has been thrown at me in my life, you would not be able to deal with it. Yet I continue to live life to the fullest.
Carter has it right. You are a shallow and superficial person. If I would allow you to get to me, you would make me sick. But I don’t allow that. My life is good. I have great family and friends who support me. That is more important to me than the words you so angrily spew.
If you are 48 years old, I pity you. You have obviously learned nothing from life. That you still find it important to attack someone else at your age is sad. You would think you would have left that along with High School.
If you think you are going to succeed in getting me to quit posting, you are wrong. I enjoy coming here. I enjoy hearing from guys writing to me telling me that they enjoy my posts. I enjoy the good friends I have made on here. I won’t leave them alone. I won’t leave here.
The only thing you have accomplished on this thread is to show how low of a human being you are. I’m so glad I’m not you.
I give up Polyanna. you win.
go be happy.
A point on the ‘bear’ thing, from what I understand it is a matter of history. Another example of the ‘community’ tearing itself apart from the inside.
Originally, ‘Bear’ was used by the guys that didn’t fit the ‘perfect’ ideal of what a homo was meant to be (with this ideal created by the people who were indeed ‘perfect’). Yes, they were hairy, and yes they were big(ger). What then happened was the infiltration and segregation of this group (I refuse to say culture). Bear was slowly taken from these people and they were reclassified as ‘chubs’. Not by themselves, but the more athletic, yet larger homo that didn’t see it right for people less than themselves to hold this title.
This is how I come to understand it. I guess my point is that of ‘internal destruction’, which is clear from reading almost any of these blog comments. Why can’t we just get along?
I know I am jaded. I managed a front line customer service operation for a gay festival. I quickly discovered that my view of the ‘community’ was of a nasty, rude and arrogant people. It makes it very hard to be ‘Out and Proud’ when you are ashamed to be associated with the rest.
I will stop my ramble now, but just ask that we try to be human THEN homo. Thanks for letting me vent.
Man.. I thought I was the only the on who finds Frado extremely handsome. I am a chaser here, so Frado’s big husky build, sexy goatee and his rusty voice are just one “sexy package”. Even though he’s lost a lot of weight, Frado is still handsome. Definitely one of the sexiest bears on Biggest Loser 🙂 Hope he wins next Tuesday!